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I've never done Chroma Key before now. I've got a roll of seamless techno green in the studio mounted on rollers for over a year and never untaped it. I've always felt this kind of photography a little cheesy, but lately, during open house at the art village my studio is located, I've had some parents and kids ask me if I do it and would I do it as part of something like a Sweet Sixteen party or Bar Mitsva? I don't know. It would have to be part of a manned photo sofa or booth type thing and maybe I could work it in as part of a package. I thought maybe I ought to set it up tethered in my studio first and try it out during an open house. Something like free 4x5s for kids under 16 or something, tethering a printer, laptop and maybe one or two strobes with the rolled down green backdrop.My question is this.
Since I've never done it, and since I may decide not to do anymore, and finally since I'd want a simple and quick software solution; what software should I look at. I'd want professional results. I wouldn't care if it were a plug-in to Photoshop CS6 or standalone. I'd probably rather have it capable of handling RAW files, but that's not a huge issue. Professional results is the biggest deal.What have others tried under similar situations?
What has the reputation of being the highest quality? What has a great reputation but maybe not the best, price making something the best bang for the buck? Any suggestions?
Quality is more important than connectivity. I can probably make the tethering work unless someone is aware of some specific issue with one of the suggestions. I'd be using an FX Nikon.Thanks in advance. If you want to do green/blue screen photography then invest in software that is specifically for that purpose. Programs such as FX PhotoKey and Green Screen Wizard simply do a better job than general purpose software such as Photoshop. The specialty software is much better at cleaning up any green/blue showing through translucent clothing or hair.Light the background evenly and to the same exposure as the subject to minimize the extraction problems.In many cases you are better off using a a background of roughly the same color and brightness as the new background than a green/blue background. That type background avoids the problem of cleaning up any green showing through translucent clothing or the hair and will let you work with Photoshop.
Sailor Blue wrote:If you want to do green/blue screen photography then invest in software that is specifically for that purpose. Programs such as FX PhotoKey and Green Screen Wizard simply do a better job than general purpose software such as Photoshop. The specialty software is much better at cleaning up any green/blue showing through translucent clothing or hair.Light the background evenly and to the same exposure as the subject to minimize the extraction problems.In many cases you are better off using a a background of roughly the same color and brightness as the new background than a green/blue background. That type background avoids the problem of cleaning up any green showing through translucent clothing or the hair and will let you work with Photoshop.Thank you for your response. Which of the two you mention do you recommend and why, please? Micheal Hall wrote:I posted on this subject just last week:Micheal, thank you for that link. I went through it.
Do you recommend the plug in you mentioned or one of those from Sailor Blue?Being able to knock out backgrounds successfully by masking has always been a tedious pixel level task for me and is why I am looking for a good piece of software with professional results. Also, just to mention, I'm still using CS6 with whatever the latest ACR is because, so far, I have refused Adobe's subscription service and will continue to do so as long as possible. I shoot a lot of corporate events as an IC for a local studio. Every now and then they have me shoot for a green screen set up. They use a version from Desktop Darkroom. They are not the cheapest but have a good reputation and haven been around a long time.I will agree lighting the background will help but may not be necessary.
I've just put two big umbrellas up and didn't have too much trouble. Plus, you may be limited on space and not be able to light the background. But if you can, yes, I would recommend it.But, if your going to print at the event, you WILL need a green screen program. These drop out the green pretty much instantly. PS would take you a while. You won't have that much time.
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They are still popular and people enjoy the silliness of them. We print either 4x6 or 5x7. I have seen smaller 4x5s printed with other studios though.And with printing, your better off with a dye sub printer. An inkjet could work with smaller prints but a dye sub prints them out in less than 10 seconds. An ink jet may take a minute or so. If you have a lot of people, those minutes will add up.
And you will need help if your busy.Props are popular. Hats, wacky glasses, boas, etc. But we have done them with just cool backgrounds before as well with the companies logo as an overlay. With a birthday party you could have an overlay with the kids name and date or something.
Photolando wrote:I shoot a lot of corporate events as an IC for a local studio. Every now and then they have me shoot for a green screen set up. They use a version from Desktop Darkroom. They are not the cheapest but have a good reputation and haven been around a long time.Mike CollinsThanks, Mike. Just curious, but what is IC?
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I tried the heck out of Google to no avail. Probably something simple. LOLLooks like we do and have done much of the same thing in the same town. I'm a now retired national corporate photographer for a company who has one of their major corporate offices in Central Florida. I was 21 years with them and the company who they purchased part of.
I had to retire because of a major stroke in 2013 which made it impossible to walk and talk, much less work for a while.Last year, I'd recovered enough to open a small studio for portraiture and some product photography. I do a few events, not weddings, on the side if I can be mobile enough.
I require a cane and/or a power wheelchair still as well as an assistant. There's no way I could do out of the studio events without that assistant. She sets and moves lighting around as well as carries the bag, usually, though I put dollies and wheels on all my light stands and booms. Even my portable backdrop stands have casters.You are probably aware of the location of my little studio.
It's part of the FAVO building on East Colonial just two blocks east of Orange and Magnolia and a block west of Lake Highland. We're a converted hotel behind Park Lake Presbyterian Church on the corner of Colonial and Lake Highland. Stop by and visit if you get the chance, Mike.
Call first in case I'm at the doctor or on location. You could join us.FAVO has 37 artists at present. IC stands of Independent Contractor.Not sure if you have heard of Christie's but they've been around Orlando for awhile and only cover corporate events. They also have a presence in Miami, Vegas and D.C.
I do a lot of my own stuff as well, including a lot of classic portraits but they have kept me pretty busy this year. It's nice to just shoot, upload and and be done with it. It's mostly Keynotes, receptions and trade shows but we do it all, including green screen.Speaking of lighting, I saw one company at an event I was covering (they hired another for the green screen. Not sure why) and all they were using was the tiny pop-up light on the camera. Yeah, the result was horrible but they were shooting all night long. Printed out small 4x4 sized prints so maybe you couldn't see how bad it was.
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I am amazed at what I see sometimes from so called 'professionals'.I grew up here so I know your location well. I will stop by sometime. Nice to meet you.
Hi Craig,Yes, I would comfortably recommend that particular plugin. I tried a few different ones (some years ago) and it has worked well for me. As to Photoshop version, I'm still on CS 5.5 myself, with no immediate plans to upgrade. I've found that, shooting RAW as I do, there is very little that I cannot do in CaptureOne when it comes to editing. Aside from things like greenscreen, that is.The PhotoKey software linked looks quite nice - very polished site anyway.
But fairly pricey - especially if you aren't doing a lot of greenscreen work. I'm downloading the trial now to play with it a bit.I've just watched the videos on the site related to PhotoKey and it does look like a nice, fast all in one solution. Compared to what I know about using EZGreenScreen, it looks like it is a bit faster in its feedback and it essentially integrates those tools needed into a single cohesive interface, which is valuable.However, EZGreenScreen does quite well. I've included a really simple example I just processed.
On the left is the greenscreen image with just basic color grading. On the right, I've literally just run it through the plugin and accepted all defaults - no mask or spill adjustments, just said OK. Then I dragged in a sample background (you can even see it says sample on the background!) and blurred it slightly. I've added a light Inner Glow layer effect to the extracted layer, which is a common technique and analogous to the LightWrap feature included in PhotoKey. (EZGreenScreen also has a built in light wrap feature, I just didn't use it on this image). There are certainly tweaks that could be done to make this better.
I just wanted to show the one click results.So, it is a quite capable piece of software. However, being a Photoshop plugin, I think where it most falls down is in the speed of feedback (many operations require it to re-calculate and that means calling Photoshop methods from the plugin) and interface (it's a collection of dialogs accessed from the main plugin dialog). It's not horrible. But not super smooth either.Mostly how I use it is in batches after a shoot. Consistently lit, I can tweak on image, save the settings and then run the remaining images through via a Photoshop action and get a good extraction.
So those things do not matter to me too much. If I were working in a high volume, onsite printing type situation, I might consider the ChromaKey lab plugin from the same company. It is designed to work directly with EZGreenScreen and automates many more steps. Guidenet wrote:Sailor Blue wrote:If you want to do green/blue screen photography then invest in software that is specifically for that purpose. Programs such as FX PhotoKey and Green Screen Wizard simply do a better job than general purpose software such as Photoshop. The specialty software is much better at cleaning up any green/blue showing through translucent clothing or hair.Light the background evenly and to the same exposure as the subject to minimize the extraction problems.In many cases you are better off using a a background of roughly the same color and brightness as the new background than a green/blue background.
That type background avoids the problem of cleaning up any green showing through translucent clothing or the hair and will let you work with Photoshop.Thank you for your response. Which of the two you mention do you recommend and why, please?I don't do any green or blue screen photography but curiosity drove me to try it out a year ago.
I had a lot of trouble with Photoshop. I then tried both of the above pieces of software and found that PhotoKey was more polished and easier for me to use.You can get a free download and trial for both pieces of software. I recommend you try them both out. If EZGreenScreen has a free trial then try it too. Don't buy until you find out which works program best for you.